Disposable machines

Hi all ,I came across these disposable machine from Ez , $16 for one or 8 for $100 , cuts out any thoughts about sterilisation , what do you all think ?

Small price, but disposable? Can't imagine what's so different from a normal machine, except for being sterilized and made of plastic.
Maybe it's intended mainly for use in medical tattooing like nipple tattoo on a reconstructed breast after a mastectomy...?

I'm thinking the world is going crazy. Stop this waste!! ??

MalligaMallan said:

I'm thinking the world is going crazy. Stop this waste!! ??

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Yes, it does seem a bit too much....

A few weeks ago I had to make an order on Aliexpress and saw the Dagger machine, so I bought one just to see if it's any good.
It has arrived so here's a preview:


It comes in a sterilized package, just as advertised.


And this is the machine in gray color. The body is made entirely of plastic. Connector is RCA.


The great thing about this machine is undoubtedly the weight, only 71 grams!


It has a double sealing but turns smoothly.


Cartridges fit perfectly. The question here is how many can we use before they slip or the plastic gives away?


Construction is simple but sufficient, and much to my surprise indeed this is a direct drive.
The machine responds well to voltage = speed changes.

I haven't done any work with it yet, but when I do, I will update this thread. Even so, it seems to be very capable of doing far more than just one tattoo. The plastic is sturdy and the overall finish is very clean, no sharp edges, nice and shiny.
Now if this holds up for 4 hours work, I can't tell, I do think an aluminium body holds up much better at that.

For $17 I would say it's an excellent machine for any one wanting to get started with rotary pen machines without investing too much.
The dimensions of this machine are much like my CNC Q2 but of course some 50+ grams lighter.

I bet it tattoos fine too; i always roll my eyes at the price of some tattoo machines

Haha I saw these on Instagram the other day. I kinda wanna try one.

Yes I got one a few weeks back ,I haven’t used it yet ,but as you mentioned solid machine for the price , a little trick to Make it quieter and run smoother is a little dab of machine grease or Vaseline on the end of the push rod

Dazza said:

Yes I got one a few weeks back ,I haven’t used it yet ,but as you mentioned solid machine for the price , a little trick to Make it quieter and run smoother is a little dab of machine grease or Vaseline on the end of the push rod

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Well I just did some work with it. Lining at 6.8V with an Ambition 1001RLLT cartridge. This is retouching work on my non-dominant hand thread.
I thought this would work better as this machine is lightweight. Turns out the battery weighs the exact same as the machine, 71 grams, making the combination perfectly balanced at 142 grams.

Didn't need to put any grease on the tip, it already had sufficient and the machine did its job perfectly. Normal noise, normal vibration.

I spend about half an hour doing various lines and touch-ups, there was no noticeable heat problem. Needle moved steadily all the time, just like any decent rotary pen. Cartridge was firmly fitted, not even the slightest movement.
After doing the work I opened it to check the motor, no abnormal heating, just a normal temperature increase from the work done.

All in all I'm surprised at the quality of this "disposable" machine and most certainly won't dispose of it yet. I'm planning on using it more just to see how much it can handle because I now only used a 1001 needle which obviously moves way easier then an 1211M1. I still have some shading work to do, probably with a 1007CM, so I'll report back on that later.

However, at the price you pay for this, an absolute steal...

swap the plastic case for a metal one, slap an fk irons logo onto it, and charge people 500$.

MirandM said:

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All in all I'm surprised at the quality of this "disposable" machine and most certainly won't dispose of it yet. I'm planning on using it more just to see how much it can handle because I now only used a 1001 needle which obviously moves way easier then an 1211M1. I still have some shading work to do, probably with a 1007CM, so I'll report back on that later.

However, at the price you pay for this, an absolute steal...

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So I just did some more work with it, about an hour of retouching work with three carts, 1001RL, a 1205RS and a 1007CM, some lining, some packing and color filling.
The machine is very silent, comfortable because of the low weight and doesn't get noticeably warm. It has to do more work with the CM but no problem, worked just fine. Changing the carts I had to adjust the hang as well, all without any problem, turns without being too tight or too lose and it stays put at the required setting. Needle stays at its position, no excess vibration, just like any decent machine. It runs a bit slower then my CND Q2 but that's no problem, just like half a volt more and voila.
Can't find anything critical or typically "cheap" about this machine, it just does its work. A very nice and welcome addition to my collection of machines.